12-11-2020, 06:00 PM
Sobre essa questão de MGTOW vou transcrever um post de setembro de 2009(!!) do Keoni Galt, quase com certeza o ser humano que mais me ajudou na saída da Matrix (o Koerich deu o maior empurrão, pra falar a verdade). O cara falava em seu blog sobre liberdade, economia, corporativismo, sistema financeiros, nutrição, exercícios físicos e muito mais. (Alguns anos depois do texto abaixo, ele se tornou pai). Usem o translate, quem precisar 
Vejam que o cara já era casado na época, e entende o molde mental dos MGTOWs, devido a misandria generalizada que permeia o mundo ocidental do século XXI. MAS, ele ainda assim deixa claro que isso não é desculpa para a fuga do imperativo biológico, ie.: "Você TEM o dever de entender e tentar cumprir seu papel de formar uma família nuclear patriarcal", quinto parágrafo.
A destruição da família nuclear é o objetivo dos tiranos, e deixar de torná-la é uma forma de rendição. Formá-la é resistir a tirania, e NÃO o contrário. Agora, se o homem não QUER formar família, por qualquer motivo que seja, então ele não deve se submeter a pressão externa, simples, não queremos que ninguém seja mártir. Agora deixar de formar família por outros motivos é uma forma de covardia (ou sinalização falsa de virtude como Incels se camuflando de MGTOWs), rejeitaram ao próprio sentido intrínseco da vida (a reprodução) por adversidades. Recusar-se a jogar o jogo as vezes já é uma derrota.

Citação:I've had a few debates here and elsewhere regarding MGTOW philosophy, and I just wanted to make it quite clear that although I've had a few pretty vehement disagreements with some of you MGTOWers, I do want to reiterate my main point: given the reality of institutionalized misandry and the feminist cultural zeitgeist that is our present day reality, I do not condemn, marginalize or criticize the MGTOW philosophy or men who choose to follow it's tenets.
I only tried to point out that while most women raised in our twisted culture are indeed fucked in the head and incapable of being a suitable mate for the traditional model of marriage, not all women are like that.
Yes, I'm perfectly aware that the "not all women are like that" is the standard trope most women use to justify feminist propaganda...but in terms of femininity and character, not all women are utterly beholden to feminist shibboleths or consumed with misandry...and that you may perhaps one day some of you may very well meet a woman who is suitable.
Believe me folks, my awakening to the reality of our world did cause me to do a really serious contemplation of my own personal situation, and the character of the women I'm married to. Had I determined she were not suitable, I would most certainly have pulled the plug.
The only real point I've been trying to make all along is that should you find a suitable woman (foreign or otherwise), you DO have a personal responsibility to understand and fulfill your role to strive for a successful, Patriarchal-modeled nuclear family. There is a masculine role you have to fulfill to compliment the feminine role a suitable women will take should you decide to take the ultimate risk in today's feminist dystopia and get married and have children.
I repeat...I believe MGTOW is perfectly rational and sane response to the insanity of our BraveNewWorldOrder's Matriarchal Hegemony!
Blogger Sociopathic Revelation from Feminist Apocalypse left an excellent comment on my previous post regarding Men's Rights Awareness, and I wanted to re-post it because he summarizes the reasons why I DO support MGTOW. He was responding to this part of my argument:
"But I have encountered quite a few MGTOW guys who seem to almost revel in pure, unadulterated misogyny...and that the worst thing a man can do is get married, because ALL women are the same. Some of these guys don't even realize it, but they become the mirror image of the utterly misandrist feminists they despise."
Citação:Perhaps. But you have to remember those men as being no better is a rather tricky posit. I realize there exist men that would take away women's right to vote or similar things, but it comes to financial and social servitude, feminists have got real misogynists beat, hands down.
Theirs is institutionalized.
I myself certainly don't hate women, but it's even easier now days for the accusation of misogynist to come rolling off people's lips. I've been dubbed as one simply because I've criticized feminism---that's often enough for someone to dismiss me entirely. By doing so, they miss the messages, and the philosophy behind them is crucial.
What this does, of course, is shut off any meaningful discourse and let's face it---men's voices have been zipped up for many years for the most part---unless you are a liberal politician, a woman firster, metrosexual, or mangina.
And looking around at an anti-male cultural and seeing what an undercurrent of a matriarchal strain can do, men are gradually waking up. And with that will be resentment. It's difficult to hear some of it because it's been buried too long. But by shaming men as "bitter" because it exists---and for more legit reasons then some might think---does not do anyone any good. That expression needs outlets for growth and change, and when that doesn't happen, sometimes it gets warped.
As I've stated in my own blog, I certainly don't approve of what Sodini did and he's no hero, but I honestly think if he had discovered MGTOW and PUA years earlier, he would have never killed those women and himself. He would have been a changed man.
He would have had choices---and that's what makes a really powerful difference in a man's life.
I've been writing lately about how our culture views men that are not successful with women as losers of some sort. What I do think MGTOW does is help validate themselves and their masculinity without the need for that affection 24/7, and if men decide to engage with women or not is up to them, ultimately.
And let's face it---there are an awful amount of women out there that reinforce the idea that men are creeps and nobodies even if they have standards and just don't screw anything that moves. And if are aggressive with women, you're dubbed a player even if you haven't slept with a hundred barflies.
Sadly, this is a nasty mentality that many carry even in their 30s and 40s; the other day I was lurking on a "romance" forum and was watching a woman gleefully call anyone who didn't share her dating optimism as bitter. She seemed to even take a perverse joy in it, and her comments were all directed towards men.
Like Zenpriest, I realize that it's not the best way for men to be alone forever, but as a self-preservation tactic I understand it. Hell, I've even surprised a couple of MGTOWers when I said I still seek out friends with benefits now and again---that I shouldn't have anything to do with US women at all. I understand the sentiment, but I personally feel a bit of my humanity has been shelved. But, on the other hand, I also acknowledge when there are men that have been burnt so badly they opt out of the game, period.
For those want to still be with women, there are foreign and minority women and alternate routes. I claim no expertise on FWs, but for those who want marriage and family and have success, more power to them and best wishes.
Just as SR wishes the best for those of us that do choose to take the risks and get married...I too wish the best of success for all of you MGTOW. May you have success in your endeavors to define yourselves in this life by going your own way and not falling for the idea that the approval of women is the definition of having a successful life.
Vejam que o cara já era casado na época, e entende o molde mental dos MGTOWs, devido a misandria generalizada que permeia o mundo ocidental do século XXI. MAS, ele ainda assim deixa claro que isso não é desculpa para a fuga do imperativo biológico, ie.: "Você TEM o dever de entender e tentar cumprir seu papel de formar uma família nuclear patriarcal", quinto parágrafo.
A destruição da família nuclear é o objetivo dos tiranos, e deixar de torná-la é uma forma de rendição. Formá-la é resistir a tirania, e NÃO o contrário. Agora, se o homem não QUER formar família, por qualquer motivo que seja, então ele não deve se submeter a pressão externa, simples, não queremos que ninguém seja mártir. Agora deixar de formar família por outros motivos é uma forma de covardia (ou sinalização falsa de virtude como Incels se camuflando de MGTOWs), rejeitaram ao próprio sentido intrínseco da vida (a reprodução) por adversidades. Recusar-se a jogar o jogo as vezes já é uma derrota.
- Sem a visão de um objetivo um homem não pode gerir a sua própria vida, e muito menos a vida dos outros.